{"id":493,"date":"2012-04-01T15:11:59","date_gmt":"2012-04-01T15:11:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/?p=493"},"modified":"2012-04-01T15:14:21","modified_gmt":"2012-04-01T15:14:21","slug":"kaie-on-decidable-and-undecidable-questions","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/2012\/04\/01\/kaie-on-decidable-and-undecidable-questions\/","title":{"rendered":"Kaie on decidable and undecidable questions"},"content":{"rendered":"<ul>\n<li>Aspects in the texts of Schwalbe and Meyer that would be interesting to discuss<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>From the text by Meyer, Torsten: \u201cEducation within a New Medium\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On page 266, Meyer writes: \u201cIf we imagine the relation of \u00bbmedia\u00ab and \u00bbeducation \u00ab in this way, if we do not speak of \u00bbthe media\u00ab anymore as something on the outside (from which one might stay away, which one simply does not switch on, for example) but try to speak of that \u00bbmedium\u00ab which, given the lack of alternatives, necessarily seems to be the whole for us, just as water is for the fish, then this becomes a true educational challenge.\u201c I think it is a very good point: when studying, one cannot be \u201coutside\u201c, no matter if it is art or media or whatsoever. \u00a0It is essential, when studying that from the point of \u201emathematics\u201c and \u201eeducation\u201c, mathematics is never outside, it is always inside in school system. How come media seems to be outside, even though it is part of our daily life?<\/p>\n<p>Also interesting questions to discuss (and that I don\u2019t know how to answer) where proposed by Meyer on last chapter: \u201eConcretizing Questions\u201c (page 270):<\/p>\n<p>1. Against this background, in what way must socialization, education, and knowledge, more exactly also ways of teaching\/learning and the measurement of performance, be thought in new ways?<\/p>\n<p>2. How workable is the concept of knowledge society as a background for designing the field of education?<\/p>\n<p>From the text by Schwalbe, Christina: \u201cChange of Media, Change of Scholarship, Change of University: Transition from the Graphosphere to a Digital Mediosphere\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In her \u201cCollective Intelligence?\u201c on page 184 Schwalbe brings out the same point that Meyer asked: \u201cIn contrast to the classification and ordering of knowledge in a typographic culture, which was subsequent to the processes of production and publication, the newly evolving ordering structures need to be part of the process of knowledge production due to the rapid and dynamic character of the medium.\u201c so, what are those evolving ordering structures?<\/p>\n<p>In this information over-load, I think that people are more conscious about, what kind of information they \u201cconsume\u201d. \u00a0The amount of sufficient information is little, and I think that people have become more aware and alert not to trust everything\u2026In some ways it is back to the basics: don\u2019t trust anybody. Anybody=information overload.<\/p>\n<p>Another kind of information-overload or \u201ceverything is accessible\u201d and \u201canyone can be anybody\u201d was a workshop in Ptarmigan, in Tallinn (ptarmigan.ee):<\/p>\n<p><em>Fake It Til You Make It<\/em>\u00a0is a workshop\/working group for those curious individuals looking to broaden their experience and skill-set. Each session of\u00a0<em>FITYMI<\/em>\u00a0will be on a different subject which could fall under areas of expertise such as construction, making, baking, electronics, mechanics, cooking, jewelry, physics, plants, and whatever else can be imagined. It is the purpose of the workshop to learn new things for the sake of learning and it is for this reason that participants will only discover the subject of each session upon arriving to the workshop. During each meeting there is a short talk about the subject and how to accomplish the objective of the\u00a0FITYMI\u00a0session followed by participants choosing how to proceed (experimenting with materials, accomplishing a project, discussion and\/or playing) with food available at some point during the workshop.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A symbolic representation<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>First one that came to my mind is Google, which comes from the world goggle. Now, goggles are the symbol of search and infinite knowledge: \u201cYou put your goggles on and dive into the information ocean\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Another symbolic representation comes from artist Chris Jordan:<\/p>\n<p>[youtube]http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=f09lQ8Q1iKE&amp;feature=player_embedded#![\/youtube]<\/p>\n<p>Where he shows an arresting view of what Western culture looks like. His supersized images picture some almost unimaginable statistics &#8212; like the astonishing number of paper cups we use every single day.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A networked, digital medium differ from other radio, print and TV by the information amount.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Digital medium has a bottomless hole in which there is information, which is endless. Radio, print and TV chooses the amount and style of information that they present. In a digital medium, the user itself chooses.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aspects in the texts of Schwalbe and Meyer that would be interesting to discuss From the text by Meyer, Torsten: \u201cEducation within a New Medium\u201d On page 266, Meyer writes: \u201cIf we imagine the relation of \u00bbmedia\u00ab and \u00bbeducation \u00ab &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/2012\/04\/01\/kaie-on-decidable-and-undecidable-questions\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":37,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[18],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-493","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-education"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/493","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/37"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=493"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/493\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":495,"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/493\/revisions\/495"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=493"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=493"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=493"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}