{"id":580,"date":"2012-04-30T09:12:04","date_gmt":"2012-04-30T09:12:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/?p=580"},"modified":"2012-06-07T10:25:09","modified_gmt":"2012-06-07T10:25:09","slug":"links-from-the-chat-session-on-april-23rd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/edublog.me\/shapingmedia\/2012\/04\/30\/links-from-the-chat-session-on-april-23rd\/","title":{"rendered":"Links from the chat-session on April 23rd"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>The contest between two artists, Zeuxis and Parrhasios<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Parrhasius_%28painter%29\">Two ancient artists competing against each other<\/a>: Zeuxis paints grapes so realistic, that birds try to eat them. Parrhasios paints a curtain &#8216;hiding&#8217; his painting, which is so realistic that the other artist is fooled: Zeuxis isn&#8217;t able to perceive Parrhasios artwork as such at all because it is <em>too<\/em> realistic.<a href=\"http:\/\/steffenvoelkel2.de\/01-2012\/13.01.2012%20075.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/steffenvoelkel2.de\/01-2012\/13.01.2012%20075.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"330\" height=\"236\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>An old question: What should be called &#8216;art&#8217;? Is it a subjective interpretation of reality, or an objective depiction that could be mistaken for reality? Does art, in the first place, have to be interpretable as art &#8211; before one can interpret its contents?<\/p>\n<p>Engraving of Zeuxis and Parrhasios:<a href=\"http:\/\/steffenvoelkel2.de\/01-2012\/13.01.2012%20075.jpg\"> http:\/\/steffenvoelkel2.de\/01-2012\/13.01.2012%20075.jpg<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Trompe l&#8217;oeil<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Trompe-l%27%C5%93il\">Deception of the eye<\/a>: A piece of art that make use of, or trangsress the physical boundaries of its visual medium to startle or to bluff. This <em>can<\/em> be an artistic intervention to render the medium visible &#8211; by letting it flow over into reality.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/c\/cc\/Escaping_criticism-by_pere_borrel_del_caso.png\/480px-Escaping_criticism-by_pere_borrel_del_caso.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/thumb\/c\/cc\/Escaping_criticism-by_pere_borrel_del_caso.png\/480px-Escaping_criticism-by_pere_borrel_del_caso.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"331\" height=\"413\" \/><\/a>A beautiful example is Pere Borell de Caso (1874), <em>&#8220;Escapando de la cr\u00edtica<\/em>&#8220;, or &#8220;Escaping Criticism&#8221;, where a boy seems to step out of the painting&#8217;s frame which is <em>also<\/em> painted.<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly, this painting could also be interpreted as &#8216;avoiding the discrimination&#8217; between what is real and what is virtual; or a hint that the framing of a medium, a framing which\u00a0usually generates <em>safety<\/em>, can be incorporated in a work of art. As with a game, we can expect that content stays within the magic circle of the medium, and behaves true to the rules of the medium: A painting does not move or change, it has no (interesting) backside or depth, it stays in one place and does not follow us around.<br \/>\nA murder mystery is harmless fun as long as it stays within the frame of its technical medium, e.g. a book or a movie; but it gets threatening if it steps out of its boundaries.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Do you know Oscar Wilde&#8217;s famous 1890 novel <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dorian_Gray\">&#8220;The Picture of Dorian Gray&#8221;<\/a>? The <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nightmare_on_elm_street\">&#8220;Nightmare on Elm Street&#8221;<\/a> movies? Fincher&#8217;s movie <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Game_%28film%29\">&#8220;The Game&#8221;<\/a> or, one of the latest addition to this genre, Suzuki&#8217;s excellent <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Ring_%282002_film%29\">&#8220;The Ring&#8221;<\/a>? See the similarity to Borell de Caso&#8217;s painting with a girl getting out of a TV-screen\u00a0in &#8220;The Ring&#8221; (US-remake from 2002).<br \/>\n[youtube]http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=lbO9LhD9PsI[\/youtube]<br \/>\nThe <em>horror<\/em>, when a medium does not behave as expected&#8230;!<\/p>\n<p>About &#8220;Criticism&#8221;:<em><br \/>\n&#8220;krei- (to sieve, discriminate, or distinguish) and krisis (literally, the judgement, the result of a trial, or a selection resulting from a choice or decision)&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n&#8211; Wikipedia, April 29th 2012, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Criticism#Etymology\">&#8220;Criticism&#8221;<\/a><\/p>\n<p>We encounter a cultural kind of &#8216;trompe l&#8217;oeil&#8217;, of a breaching of boundaries with Duchamp&#8217;s ready mades, too:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Duchamp&#8217;s readymades versus the cultural framings of &#8216;art&#8217; and &#8216;exhibition&#8217;<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/f\/f6\/Duchamp_Fountaine.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/upload.wikimedia.org\/wikipedia\/commons\/f\/f6\/Duchamp_Fountaine.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"245\" height=\"334\" \/><\/a>One starting point for the shift of what could be seen <em>as<\/em> art in the early 20th century was <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fountain_%28Duchamp%29\">Marcel Duchamps (1917) &#8220;Fountain&#8221;<\/a>. His &#8216;sculpture&#8217;, a mass-produced pissoir, was in an art exhibition (i.e. the given cultural frame for showcasing high art); but obviously to contemporary visitors it was <em>not<\/em> art (obviously a irritating transgression of the cultural frame).<br \/>\nThe question arises: Is it sufficient to give an object the status of &#8216;artwork&#8217; by getting it into an exhibition? The legitimacy of an &#8216;exhibition&#8217; as well as the boundaries of the cultural medium of &#8216;art&#8217; were questioned by Duchamp by this simple piece of porcelain!<a href=\"http:\/\/boingboing.net\/2012\/01\/31\/duchamp-was-here.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"http:\/\/boingboing.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/01\/assets_img_content_posts_341079_2355660384442_1638193129_1711131_1684017551_o.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"247\" height=\"185\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Joseph_Beuys\">Joseph Beuys<\/a>&#8216; art sometimes suffered a more dire fate: A dirty bathtub and fat, heaped up in a corner of a room (german: &#8220;Fettecke&#8221;), were not recognized as artworks and cleaned &#8211; i.e. destroyed &#8211; by the janitors.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/128.197.26.3\/prc\/prcpov\/images\/artists\/p05.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"279\" height=\"316\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Janine Antoni (1992), &#8220;Gnaw&#8221; (gnawed on lard cube after its collapse). Cover picture from Martha Buskirk&#8217;s book &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/128.197.26.3\/prc\/prcpov\/artists\/a05.html\">The Contingent Object in Contemporary Art<\/a>&#8220;.<br \/>\nIs it <em>characteristic<\/em> to contemporary art to bring with it the question whether it is art at all?<\/p>\n<p>This is connected to Kaie&#8217;s question whether specific new forms of puppetplay will still be recognised &#8211; or accepted &#8211; as puppetplay, see the example she gave: <a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/23759370\">http:\/\/vimeo.com\/23759370<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><strong>So, what do we call &#8216;art&#8217;?<br \/>\nAnd what do we call &#8216;education&#8217;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When do we not recognise something as &#8216;art&#8217; anymore? What are &#8216;art&#8217;s&#8217; stabilising institutions and boundaries? What are the (external? internal?) agents that &#8216;threaten&#8217; this institutions and boundaries? And how can these questions lead to a &#8211; necessary? &#8211; transformation of the notion of &#8216;art&#8217;?<\/p>\n<p>These are fundamental questions also for Pedagogical Media Theory: Just replace &#8216;art&#8217; with &#8216;education&#8217;, and start with new media as contemporary example for a threat to education&#8217;s traditional forms.<br \/>\nChristina Schwalbe for example showed in her text similar questions and developments for academic teaching and &#8216;new&#8217; media through the ages (scripture, printing press, computer); Heinz von Foerster does so for different cultures or worldviews, e.g. in his &#8220;lethology&#8221; &#8211; knowing that you do not know, so you can know; knowing about blind spots.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>&#8220;Heinz von Foerster developed a whole second-order cybernetics of indeterminateness and undecidability, a so-called lethology of the calculus of the unknowable (&#8230;), just to be as explicit as possible about this one point: Any knowledge we may have is a knowledge gained from an observation and description of the way we know. It is embedded in a deep and persistent ignorance of the world we rely on when venturing into a way to know.&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n<em>\u2013 <a href=\"www.dirkbaecker.com\/Knowledge.pdf\">Dirk Baecker (2003), &#8220;Knowledge and Ignorance. Heinz von Foerster Lecture 2003&#8221;<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>We see the frame and the content; and we learned what to expect from the content and the frame: education and enculturation.<br \/>\nThere is a similar phenomenon with art, and works of art.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The contest between two artists, Zeuxis and Parrhasios Two ancient artists competing against each other: Zeuxis paints grapes so realistic, that birds try to eat them. 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